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OK, so in comments to GRRM's post on the health care reform law, some fellow named saxster busts out with the Mars-logic:
(I should point out that I'm vaguely offended this person likes a movie I loved.)
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And some appeals to states rights (he lives in Texas, and invokes unconstitutionality of federal control over health insurance. Which of course totally existed in 1776.)
These are the wackaloons that make me cringe when I hear the word "libertarian."
Oppose the law ON ITS MERITS. Don't just make shit up that's just scaremongering and knee-jerk reactionism and Mars-logic. oh noes, Socialism! It's the USSR! We're gonna go back to a feudal society! (Seriously, I don't get that one. Anybody? In the thread, someone called him on it, and he never responded. I don't know if it's because he didn't have a good response or if GRRM froze the thread first.)
National health insurance will not take away your right to vote. NHI will not invalidate the first amendment (or any of the others.) NHI will not destroy the market economy. NHI will not move into your house and tell you what to eat. It won't even pay for fucking abortions, thanks to women's health being used as a political football YET AGAIN.
It will, however, make it easier to compare insurance plans. It will make it easier to find out how much a procedure costs. It will (oddly enough) make restaurants put calorie information on their menus. Yes, it also expands federal regulations, and if you think that's a bad thing, so be it. But to equate it with the fucking Deutsche Demokratische Republik (which was neither democratic nor a republic) isn't anything founded in Earth logic.
(I worked in county government for 2.5 years. I know there's a lot of waste, incompetence, and nepotism. I think waste should be minimized and competence maximized, for maximum efficiency. I'm very Teutonic in that respect. Ordnung muss sein! und so weiter.)
This opens the door to pure Socialism, which I firmly believe is the intent of the bill and especially of Obama and his handlers. This will push us towards a Global government one more step.
Considering I just watched a terrific German-made film, 'The Lives of Others', just last night, which shows in stark terms how life was in Eastern Germany before The Wall came down, I am disgusted by what I see happening in this country. The will of the PEOPLE was ignored. The vast majority of Americans came down against this bill and the Democrats ignored their constituents in every case.
(I should point out that I'm vaguely offended this person likes a movie I loved.)
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However, we might very well end up with a Feudal society again at this rate. The sword on my wall is a constant reminder to me that I'm not a slave and never will be.
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East Germany is hardly that much of a leap from where we are heading right now. History is rife with leaders run amok. There is a reason why this Congress has the lowest approval ratings in United States history.
And some appeals to states rights (he lives in Texas, and invokes unconstitutionality of federal control over health insurance. Which of course totally existed in 1776.)
These are the wackaloons that make me cringe when I hear the word "libertarian."
Oppose the law ON ITS MERITS. Don't just make shit up that's just scaremongering and knee-jerk reactionism and Mars-logic. oh noes, Socialism! It's the USSR! We're gonna go back to a feudal society! (Seriously, I don't get that one. Anybody? In the thread, someone called him on it, and he never responded. I don't know if it's because he didn't have a good response or if GRRM froze the thread first.)
National health insurance will not take away your right to vote. NHI will not invalidate the first amendment (or any of the others.) NHI will not destroy the market economy. NHI will not move into your house and tell you what to eat. It won't even pay for fucking abortions, thanks to women's health being used as a political football YET AGAIN.
It will, however, make it easier to compare insurance plans. It will make it easier to find out how much a procedure costs. It will (oddly enough) make restaurants put calorie information on their menus. Yes, it also expands federal regulations, and if you think that's a bad thing, so be it. But to equate it with the fucking Deutsche Demokratische Republik (which was neither democratic nor a republic) isn't anything founded in Earth logic.
(I worked in county government for 2.5 years. I know there's a lot of waste, incompetence, and nepotism. I think waste should be minimized and competence maximized, for maximum efficiency. I'm very Teutonic in that respect. Ordnung muss sein! und so weiter.)
